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01/17/10 04:50 PM
Name Old PA New PA OPS+ PosList Belliard, Ron 3685 5456 97 2B/3B/1B Berkman, Lance 3813 6354 147 1B/LF/RF/CF Blake, Casey 1997 4281 108 3B/RF/1B Blum, Geoff 2636 4088 81 3B/2B/SS/1B/LF Boone, Aaron 3440 4329 94 3B/1B Burrell, Pat 3578 5864 115 LF/1B Cabrera, Miguel 1716 4441 140 3B/1B/LF/RF Catalanotto, Frank 2950 4266 108 LF/2B/1B/RF Counsell, Craig 3549 5059 81 2B/SS/3B Crawford, Carl 2298 4726 103 LF/CF Drew, J.D. 3180 5321 129 RF/CF Dunn, Adam 2783 5417 132 LF/1B/RF Eckstein, David 3233 5213 88 SS/2B Feliz, Pedro 1793 4115 83 3B/1B/LF Figgins, Chone 1640 4075 99 3B/CF/2B Furcal, Rafael 3649 5871 96 SS Gonzalez, Alex 3488 4776 79 SS Guillen, Carlos 2837 4900 112 SS/3B/1B Guillen, Jose 3967 5838 99 RF/LF Hatteberg, Scott 3859 4876 101 1B/C Hernandez, Ramon 2963 4770 95 C Hudson, Orlando 1780 4117 100 2B Huff, Aubrey 3066 5444 113 DH/3B/1B/RF Hunter, Torii 3633 6008 107 CF Ibanez, Raul 3259 5866 115 LF/DH/RF/1B Inge, Brandon 2071 4293 84 3B/C Jenkins, Geoff 3913 5254 113 LF/RF Jones, Jacque 3783 4989 98 RF/LF/CF Kennedy, Adam 3295 5055 89 2B/3B Lee, Travis 3845 4233 95 1B/RF Lo Duca, Paul 3070 4302 97 C/1B Lopez, Felipe 1673 4270 93 SS/2B/3B Lugo, Julio 3310 5026 88 SS/2B Matthews, Gary 2446 4552 93 CF/RF/LF Millar, Kevin 3424 5382 110 1B/LF/RF Molina, Bengie 2679 4743 88 C Mora, Melvin 3371 5669 107 3B/SS/LF/CF Nixon, Trot 3376 4224 112 RF/CF Ortiz, David 3584 6055 134 DH/1B Payton, Jay 3032 4453 93 CF/LF/RF Pierre, Juan 3754 6064 85 CF/LF Pierzynski, A.J. 2547 4704 94 C Polanco, Placido 3577 6017 98 2B/3B/SS Pujols, Albert 3428 6082 172 1B/LF/3B Ramirez, Aramis 3620 5825 114 3B Roberts, Brian 2327 5093 105 2B/SS Rollins, Jimmy 3626 6512 97 SS Rowand, Aaron 1823 4109 102 CF/LF Soriano, Alfonso 3490 5860 113 2B/LF Spiezio, Scott 3834 4412 95 1B/2B/3B/LF Suzuki, Ichiro 3692 6607 118 RF/CF Teixeira, Mark 1944 4638 136 1B Uribe, Juan 2337 4180 83 SS/2B/3B Varitek, Jason 3624 5466 99 C Wells, Vernon 2848 5317 107 CF Wilson, Jack 2958 4819 78 SS Wilson, Preston 3831 4436 103 CF/LF/RF Young, Michael 3248 5989 105 SS/2B/3B
Name LstYr OldPA NewPA OldOPS+ NewOPS+ PosList Bell, David 2006 4814 5380 85 85 3B/2B Clayton, Royce 2007 7446 8164 78 77 SS Easley, Damion 2008 5426 6211 92 92 2B/SS/3B Encarnacion, Juan 2007 4190 5095 97 97 RF/CF/LF Gomez, Chris 2008 4561 5143 81 82 SS/2B/1B/3B Grudzielanek, Mark 2008 6052 7484 89 91 2B/SS Guzman, Cristian 2009 4030 5389 73 80 SS Lawton, Matt 2006 5541 5570 105 105 RF/LF/CF Perez, Neifi 2007 5123 5510 65 64 SS/2B Tucker, Michael 2006 4612 4686 95 95 RF/LF/CF Vizcaino, Jose 2006 5757 5918 76 75 SS/2B/3B
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CATCHERS Name LstYr PA OPS+ Positions Kittridge, Malachi 1906 4446 56 C FIRST BASE Name LstYr PA OPS+ Positions Bonura, Zeke 1940 4026 121 1B Bransfield, Kitty 1911 5386 97 1B Cater, Danny 1975 4785 101 1B/LF/3B Comiskey, Charlie 1894 6035 82 1B Dahlgren, Babe 1946 4506 92 1B Doyle, Jack 1905 6566 105 1B/C/2B/RF/SS/3B Dropo, Walt 1961 4521 100 1B Holke, Walter 1925 4833 89 1B Jefferies, Gregg 2000 6072 107 1B/LF/2B/3B Johnson, Deron 1976 6620 102 1B/3B/DH/LF Johnston, Doc 1922 4270 88 1B Jorgensen, Mike 1985 4034 101 1B/LF/RF/CF Kranepool, Ed 1979 5997 97 1B/LF/RF LaChance, Candy 1905 5295 93 1B Lockman, Whitey 1960 6590 95 1B/LF/CF McCraw, Tommy 1975 4396 94 1B/LF/RF/CF Meyer, Dan 1985 4027 86 1B/LF/3B Montanez, Willie 1982 6407 102 1B/CF/RF Morrill, John 1890 5274 111 1B/3B/2B/SS O'Brien, Pete 1993 6168 104 1B/OF Phillips, Bill 1888 4458 108 1B Sheely, Earl 1931 5263 104 1B Siebert, Dick 1945 4251 96 1B/OF Spencer, Jim 1982 5409 98 1B/DH Stovall, George 1915 5596 92 1B/2B Tabler, Pat 1992 4362 99 1B/DH/LF/3B/RF Tebeau, Patsy 1900 5012 85 1B/3B/2B Tucker, Tommy 1899 7266 102 1B Young, Kevin 2003 4351 95 1B/3B SECOND BASE Name LstYr PA OPS+ Positions Adair, Jerry 1970 4315 80 2B/SS Adams, Sparky 1934 6174 82 2B/3B/SS Alicea, Luis 2002 4613 88 2B/3B Bierbauer, Lou 1898 6007 83 2B Burdock, Jack 1891 4011 83 2B Duncan, Mariano 1997 4998 86 2B/SS/LF Flynn, Doug 1985 4085 57 2B/SS/3B Gustine, Frankie 1950 5037 87 2B/3B/SS Gutteridge, Don 1948 4577 84 2B/3B/SS Hallman, Bill 1903 6596 84 2B/3B/SS Hayes, Jackie 1940 4471 70 2B/3B/SS Helms, Tommy 1977 5333 79 2B/3B/SS Knabe, Otto 1916 5255 86 2B Lansing, Mike 2001 4551 83 2B/SS/3B Lind, Jose 1995 4000 71 2B Melillo, Ski 1937 5536 63 2B Quinn, Joe 1901 7334 76 2B/SS/1B/3B/CF Rawlings, Johnny 1926 4168 72 2B/SS Richardson, Danny 1894 4751 81 2B/SS/CF/RF Robinson, Yank 1892 4167 104 2B/3B/SS/LF Smith, Pop 1891 4623 86 2B/SS/3B Stricker, Cub 1893 5083 77 2B Suder, Pete 1955 5473 71 2B/3B/SS Thomas, Derrel 1985 5268 84 2B/CF/SS/3B/LF/RF Vina, Fernando 2004 4742 89 2B Wambsganss, Bill 1926 6097 78 2B/SS THIRD BASE Name LstYr PA OPS+ Positions Aspromonte, Bob 1971 4799 85 3B/LF/SS Cabell, Enos 1986 6304 93 3B/1B/RF Carpenter, Hick 1892 4777 86 3B Casey, Doc 1907 4805 84 3B Coughlin, Bill 1908 4232 87 3B Dugan, Joe 1931 5879 82 3B/SS/2B Foster, Eddie 1923 6317 88 3B/2B Harris, Lenny 2005 4289 80 3B/2B/RF/LF/1B/SS Hayes, Charlie 2001 5765 88 3B/1B High, Andy 1934 4969 94 3B/2B/SS Irwin, Charlie 1902 4095 81 3B/SS Jacoby, Brook 1992 5027 104 3B/1B Knight, Ray 1988 5291 99 3B/1B Kuehne, Bill 1892 4431 82 3B/SS/OF Law, Vance 1991 4298 94 3B/2B/SS/1B McCormick, Barry 1904 4029 71 3B/2B/SS Mulvey, Joe 1895 4213 84 3B Oberkfell, Ken 1992 5528 97 3B/2B O'Rourke, Frank 1931 4606 69 3B/SS/2B Owen, Marv 1940 4224 80 3B Pagliarulo, Mike 1995 4317 93 3B Pinkney, George 1893 5189 103 3B/2B Reitz, Ken 1982 5079 79 3B Royster, Jerry 1988 4732 76 3B/2B/SS/LF Shindle, Billy 1898 6326 88 3B/SS Sprague, Ed 2001 4587 90 3B/1B Sutton, Ezra 1888 4453 118 3B/SS/OF Tabor, Jim 1947 4136 99 3B Wert, Don 1971 4346 87 3B White, Deacon 1890 5668 122 3B/C/1B/RF Whitney, Art 1891 4001 64 3B/SS SHORTSTOP Name LstYr PA OPS+ Positions Cross, Monte 1907 6711 80 SS Cruz, Deivi 2005 4375 78 SS/2B Ely, Bones 1902 5563 69 SS/LF Ford, Hod 1933 5385 72 SS/2B Fuller, Shorty 1896 4158 68 SS Gerber, Wally 1929 5816 67 SS Irwin, Arthur 1894 4190 81 SS/3B Lavan, Doc 1924 4265 74 SS McNair, Eric 1942 4869 80 SS/2B/3B Newsome, Skeeter 1947 4087 62 SS/2B Olson, Ivy 1924 6630 74 SS/2B/3B Ramirez, Rafael 1992 5887 77 SS/3B Rowe, Jack 1890 4626 114 SS/C/OF Sanchez, Rey 2005 5246 69 SS/2B Taveras, Frank 1982 4399 71 SS Thevenow, Tommy 1938 4484 51 SS/2B/3B Warstler, Rabbit 1940 4611 59 SS/2B LEFT FIELD Name LstYr PA OPS+ Positions Bigbee, Carson 1926 4666 96 LF/CF Carroll, Cliff 1893 4380 91 LF/RF Case, George 1947 5515 95 LF/RF/CF Coleman, Vince 1997 5970 83 LF/CF Collins, Dave 1990 5507 93 LF/RF/CF/1B Cordero, Wil 2005 4738 95 LF/SS/1B Cromartie, Warren 1991 4318 105 LF/RF/1B Dalrymple, Abner 1891 4384 122 LF Francona, Tito 1970 5776 107 LF/1B/RF/CF Graney, Jack 1922 5576 100 LF/CF Gross, Greg 1989 4355 103 LF/RF/CF/1B Hall, Mel 1996 4575 107 LF/RF/CF Hatcher, Billy 1995 4752 86 LF/CF/RF Herndon, Larry 1988 5316 103 LF/CF/RF Holmes, Ducky 1905 4014 99 LF/RF Hornung, Joe 1890 4918 91 LF/1B Incaviglia, Pete 1998 4677 104 LF/RF Johnson, Alex 1976 4948 105 LF/RF Leonard, Jeffrey 1990 5476 102 LF/RF/CF Lopez, Hector 1966 5177 104 LF/3B/2B/RF Lowrey, Peanuts 1955 4831 92 LF/CF/3B/RF Martin, Al 2003 4688 103 LF/CF May, Carlos 1977 4723 111 LF/DH/1B McCarthy, Jack 1907 4640 100 LF/CF/RF O'Leary, Troy 2003 4418 97 LF/RF Paciorek, Tom 1987 4465 102 LF/1B/RF/CF Polonia, Luis 2000 5296 97 LF/DH/CF/RF Purcell, Blondie 1890 4875 103 LF/RF/CF/P Radcliff, Rip 1943 4436 97 LF/RF/1B Robinson, Bill 1983 4729 104 LF/RF/CF/1B/3B Seery, Emmett 1892 4051 106 LF/RF Shanks, Howie 1925 6414 82 LF/3B/SS/2B/CF Skinner, Bob 1966 4873 108 LF/1B/RF Smith, Elmer 1901 5400 126 LF/P/RF Snyder, Russ 1970 4014 94 LF/CF/RF Vosmik, Joe 1944 6084 104 LF/RF Walker, Gee 1945 7211 99 LF/CF/RF Wilmot, Walt 1898 4360 104 LF/CF Wood, George 1892 5821 116 LF Zernial, Gus 1959 4561 116 LF CENTER FIELD Name LstYr PA OPS+ Positions Allen, Ethan 1938 4765 93 CF/LF/RF Beniquez, Juan 1988 5150 95 CF/LF/RF/1B Berry, Ken 1975 4545 91 CF/LF/RF Bodie, Ping 1921 4160 109 CF/LF/RF Brown, Tom 1898 8182 100 CF/RF/LF Busby, Jim 1962 4655 82 CF Corkhill, Pop 1892 4614 87 CF/RF Curtis, Chad 2001 4650 95 CF/LF/RF Devereaux, Mike 1998 4102 91 CF/RF/LF Douthit, Taylor 1933 4727 93 CF Glanville, Doug 2004 4282 78 CF/LF Goodwin, Tom 2004 4315 73 CF/LF Groth, Johnny 1960 4302 99 CF/LF/RF Haas, Mule 1938 4976 94 CF/RF Hamilton, Darryl 2001 5176 95 CF/RF/LF Hanlon, Ned 1892 5563 101 CF/LF Hemphill, Charlie 1911 5093 106 CF/RF Javier, Stan 2001 5755 93 CF/RF/LF Johnson, Lance 2000 5800 95 CF/LF Kelly, Roberto 2000 5226 106 CF/LF/RF Landreaux, Ken 1987 4503 99 CF/LF/RF Leibold, Nemo 1925 4863 91 CF/RF/LF Lewis, Darren 2002 4652 72 CF/RF/LF Manning, Rick 1987 5832 84 CF/RF/LF May, Dave 1978 4085 98 CF/RF/LF McAleer, Jimmy 1907 4414 72 CF/LF McRae, Brian 1999 5737 92 CF Miller, Rick 1985 4440 93 CF/RF/LF Moreno, Omar 1986 5481 79 CF/RF Nixon, Otis 1999 5800 77 CF/LF/RF Oakes, Rebel 1915 4052 97 CF Oldring, Rube 1918 5096 103 CF/LF/3B Pettis, Gary 1992 4237 80 CF Piersall, Jim 1967 6591 92 CF/RF/LF Rice, Harry 1933 4247 105 CF/RF Smith, Jack 1929 5026 103 CF/RF/LF Strunk, Amos 1924 5803 112 CF/RF/LF Tolan, Bobby 1979 4664 95 CF/RF/LF/1B Tuttle, Bill 1963 4842 88 CF/3B/RF Unser, Del 1982 5813 93 CF/RF/1B/LF Virdon, Bill 1968 6522 89 CF Welch, Curt 1893 4939 107 CF West, Sam 1942 6972 104 CF/LF Witt, Whitey 1926 4771 97 CF/SS/RF/2B/LF RIGHT FIELD Name LstYr PA OPS+ Positions Alou, Jesus 1979 4577 86 RF/LF Barry, Shad 1908 4465 94 RF/1B/LF/2B/3B Bell, Derek 2001 5068 99 RF/CF Bichette, Dante 2001 6855 106 RF/LF/CF Brooks, Hubie 1994 6476 100 RF/3B/SS Brown, Ollie 1977 4012 103 RF/LF Campbell, Bruce 1942 5369 109 RF Collins, Shano 1925 7036 90 RF/1B/CF/LF Cowens, Al 1986 6038 98 RF/CF Donovan, Patsy 1907 8133 97 RF/LF/CF Dowd, Tommy 1901 5956 82 RF/CF/2B/LF Eisenreich, Jim 1998 4391 103 RF/LF/CF/1B Finney, Lou 1947 5033 88 RF/1B/LF/CF Flack, Max 1925 5905 101 RF/LF Fox, Pete 1945 6168 98 RF/CF Griffith, Tommy 1925 5451 102 RF Hickman, Jim 1974 4535 108 RF/CF/1B/LF/3B Johnstone, Jay 1985 5229 103 RF/CF/LF/1B Kelly, Pat 1981 5011 107 RF/LF/DH/CF Kennedy, Bob 1957 5065 80 RF/3B/LF Maldonado, Candy 1995 4590 107 RF/LF/CF McCarthy, Tommy 1896 5739 102 RF/LF Morales, Jerry 1983 4984 91 RF/CF/LF Moreland, Keith 1989 5082 104 RF/3B/C/1B/LF Mueller, Don 1959 4594 89 RF Radford, Paul 1894 5816 90 RF/SS/CF/3B/2B Tobin, Jack 1927 6872 109 RF/LF/CF Wilson, Glenn 1993 4467 93 RF/LF/CF Wyrostek, Johnny 1954 4784 98 RF/CF Youngblood, Joel 1989 4078 103 RF/LF/3B/2B/CF Zarilla, Al 1953 4034 103 RF/LF/CF DESIGNATED HITTER Name LstYr PA OPS+ Positions Gamble, Oscar 1985 5197 127 DH/RF/LF/CF Johnson, Cliff 1986 4603 125 DH/1B/C/LF
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01/17/10 09:59 PM
pg13 wrote: Tommy McCarthy is in the Hall of Fame and on this list. There's a reason he was left off.
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01/17/10 10:53 PM
pg13 wrote: Any questions? Comments? Requests?
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01/18/10 10:58 AM
rjb182 wrote: How is it a sham? I don't think the disk was advertised as having every player over 4,000 plate appearances-- just the greatest from each franchise. With enough players for 48 teams or so, it certainly meets that standard. I mean, I'd love it if it was like Strat's Career Historical Disk and had EVERYBODY, but that doesn't make it a sham. The only thing I find genuinely disappointing about the disk is the limited number of catchers, which makes it basically impossible to "really" field the maximum number of teams-- at least, with injuries enabled. They need to relax the standards for backstops to the point where teams can carry an emergency catcher. Anyway, great posts. I think at least 50 or 60 of these guys have strong cases for inclusion, even with the standards where they are now.
01/18/10 11:13 AM
01/18/10 11:29 AM
rjb182 wrote: Fair point, thanks for the clarification. Personally, though, I'm on the fence about splits. It would drive me crazy to have a player like Wally Backman, who I know couldn't hit a lefty to save his life, treated like a "normal" switch-hitter (or even a normal lefty!). But it seems to me, for every case of a guy like Backman where splits are helpful, there's the odd year where Mike Schmidt or somebody happened to hit .350 against right-handers and less against lefties, creating an unrealistic "reverse" split that was really just a fluke. So I can see the case on either side, there...
01/18/10 04:47 PM
ramsyanks wrote: It just proves, that if the filter for qualification is 4000 PA. And there are over 200 players who meet the criteria and are omitted. That means the disk is a sham.
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01/18/10 05:08 PM
nemodomi wrote: ramsyanks wrote: It just proves, that if the filter for qualification is 4000 PA. And there are over 200 players who meet the criteria and are omitted. That means the disk is a sham. Holmeed?
************** Bottom of the 7th inning, Red Sox batting Bailey,J pinch hitting for Ortiz,D 1-0 0 --- 12 Bailey,J struck out (BCFC) 1-0 1 --- 02 Youkilis struck out (CFC) 1-0 2 --- 01 Drew,J lined a double to right center (CX) 1-0 2 -2- 11 Drew,J to third, Bay to first on an error by the third baseman Rodriguez,A (BCX) 1-0 2 1-3 12 Lowell lined a single between third and short, Drew,J scored, Bay to second (CSBX) 1-1 2 12- 11 Varitek grounded out to short (CBX)
01/18/10 06:52 PM
nemodomi wrote: Drool. Thanks so much for doing and posting all of this, pg13. I'm in Hog Heaven. pg13 wrote: Tommy McCarthy is in the Hall of Fame and on this list. There's a reason he was left off. Which is?
Name RC27 Carlos Baerga 4.6 Max Bishop 5.0 Al Bumbry 5.2 Duff Cooley 4.4 Jimmy Johnston 4.6 Ken McMullen 4.9 Johnny Ray 4.5 Terry Steinbach 4.6
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01/18/10 08:31 PM
rjb182 wrote: I would certainly like to see either of those things-- though not necessarily more than the pitcher edition, which ought to be intriguing too. But one thing confuses me: ARE there any players from the Bill James Top 100 that were omitted? I seem to recall, when the disk first came out, one of the things they said was that they got everybody on those lists... Maybe I'm imagining things. I do that sometimes.
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INACTIVE IN 2009 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- STILL BELOW THE MAX Name LstYr OldPA NewPA OldOPS+ NewOPS+ Positions Alomar, Sandy 2007 4730 4865 87 86 C Batista, Tony 2007 4646 4959 93 92 3B/SS/2B Casey, Sean 2008 4490 5644 114 109 1B Cruz, Jose 2008 4822 5448 105 102 CF/RF/LF Everett, Carl 2006 5052 5395 109 107 CF/RF/DH/LF Gonzalez, Alex 2006 5490 5528 79 79 SS/3B Hernandez, Jose 2006 4923 5089 89 88 SS/3B/2B/1B/LF/CF Jordan, Brian 2006 5545 5646 105 104 RF/LF/CF Lieberthal, Mike 2007 4383 4695 103 101 C Lopez, Javy 2006 5429 5793 114 112 C Matheny, Mike 2006 4110 4287 65 64 C Mueller, Bill 2006 4760 4886 109 109 3B/2B Nevin, Phil 2006 4253 4703 116 114 3B/1B/C/LF Sexson, Richie 2008 4123 5604 127 120 1B/LF Vidro, Jose 2008 4242 5708 112 108 2B/DH Walker, Todd 2007 4499 5055 99 98 2B/3B/1B White, Rondell 2007 5378 5852 112 108 LF/CF Womack, Tony 2006 5309 5389 72 72 2B/SS/RF Young, Dmitri 2008 4380 5252 114 114 1B/LF/DH/RF/3B
BELOW THE MAX IN 2005, OVER THE MAX IN 2009 Name LstYr OldPA NewPA OldOPS+ NewOPS+ Positions Cirillo, Jeff 2007 5628 6136 102 102 3B/1B Randa, Joe 2006 5780 6007 96 96 3B/2B Stewart, Shannon 2008 5185 6205 108 105 LF/CF Valentin, Jose 2007 5702 6317 96 96 SS/3B/2B/OF
OVER THE MAX IN 2005 Name LstYr OldPA NewPA OldOPS+ NewOPS+ Positions Alfonzo, Edgardo 2006 6013 6108 106 104 3B/2B Alou, Moises 2008 7121 7913 128 128 LF/RF/CF Biggio, Craig 2007 11341 12503 115 111 2B/C/CF/LF Bonds, Barry 2007 11636 12606 183 181 LF/CF Burnitz, Jeromy 2006 6237 6579 113 111 RF/CF/LF Castilla, Vinny 2006 7093 7384 97 95 3B/SS Conine, Jeff 2007 6950 7781 110 107 1B/LF/RF/3B Durham, Ray 2008 6914 8423 104 104 2B Edmonds, Jim 2008 6488 7708 137 132 CF/LF/1B Finley, Steve 2007 9877 10460 106 104 CF/RF Franco, Julio 2007 9446 9731 112 111 SS/2B/1B/DH Gonzalez, Luis 2008 8950 10531 122 118 LF Green, Shawn 2007 6884 7962 123 120 RF/1B/CF/LF Kent, Jeff 2008 8028 9537 125 123 2B/3B/1B Klesko, Ryan 2007 6099 6516 130 128 LF/1B Lofton, Kenny 2007 8153 9234 108 107 CF/LF Piazza, Mike 2007 6977 7745 146 142 C/1B Salmon, Tim 2006 6795 7039 129 128 RF/DH Sanders, Reggie 2007 6600 7043 116 115 RF/LF/CF Sierra, Ruben 2006 8749 8782 105 105 RF/DH/LF Snow, J.T. 2008 6500 6553 105 105 1B Sosa, Sammy 2007 9442 9896 129 128 RF/CF Thomas, Frank 2008 8602 10074 161 156 DH/1B Williams, Bernie 2006 8591 9053 126 125 CF/RF Young, Eric 2006 6837 6996 93 92 2B/LF
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ACTIVE IN 2009 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- STILL BELOW THE MAX Name LstYr OldPA NewPA OldOPS+ NewOPS+ Positions Chavez, Eric 2009 4201 5282 120 116 3B Clark, Tony 2009 4466 5120 116 112 1B Glaus, Troy 2009 4113 5872 121 121 3B Stairs, Matt 2009 4524 5838 121 118 RF/DH/1B/LF Sweeney, Mike 2009 4737 5680 122 118 DH/1B/C
BELOW THE MAX IN 2005, OVER THE MAX IN 2009 Name LstYr OldPA NewPA OldOPS+ NewOPS+ Positions Abreu, Bobby 2009 5681 8417 138 132 RF Aurilia, Rich 2009 4866 6278 101 98 SS/1B/3B/2B Ausmus, Brad 2009 5774 7030 78 75 C Beltran, Carlos 2009 4561 6877 111 119 CF Beltre, Adrian 2009 4468 6877 106 105 3B Cabrera, Orlando 2009 4427 7241 84 86 SS Cameron, Mike 2009 5014 7435 105 107 CF/RF Castillo, Luis 2009 4966 7172 94 93 2B Dye, Jermaine 2009 4823 7214 106 111 RF Erstad, Darin 2009 5673 6615 97 93 1B/CF/LF Floyd, Cliff 2009 5064 6063 123 119 LF/RF/1B Garciaparra, Nomar 2009 4777 6116 130 124 SS/1B/3B Giles, Brian 2009 5660 7835 146 136 RF/LF/CF Guerrero, Vladimir 2009 5494 7826 150 145 RF/DH Helton, Todd 2009 5424 7761 148 141 1B Jones, Andruw 2009 5948 7845 115 110 CF/RF Kendall, Jason 2009 5958 8211 105 97 C Konerko, Paul 2009 4479 6893 115 116 1B Kotsay, Mark 2009 4742 6168 103 98 CF/RF/1B Lee, Carlos 2009 4334 6869 111 117 LF Lee, Derrek 2009 4693 6860 124 124 1B Loretta, Mark 2009 4843 6558 104 98 2B/SS/3B/1B Lowell, Mike 2009 4018 6254 109 109 3B Ordonez, Magglio 2009 4555 7020 126 127 RF Posada, Jorge 2009 4545 6312 121 124 C Rolen, Scott 2009 5345 7382 129 124 3B Tejada, Miguel 2009 5396 8012 113 112 SS Winn, Randy 2009 4093 6645 104 99 CF/RF/LF
OVER THE MAX IN 2005 Name LstYr OldPA NewPA OldOPS+ NewOPS+ Positions Anderson, Garret 2009 6849 9014 106 104 LF/CF/DH/RF Damon, Johnny 2009 6908 9433 101 105 CF/LF/RF Delgado, Carlos 2009 6634 8657 143 138 1B/LF Giambi, Jason 2009 6329 8135 149 143 1B/DH/LF/3B Griffey, Ken 2009 9072 11196 144 136 CF/RF Jeter, Derek 2009 6996 9809 121 121 SS Jones, Chipper 2009 7066 9273 140 143 3B/LF Ramirez, Manny 2009 7225 9437 156 155 LF/RF/DH Renteria, Edgar 2009 6193 8466 94 94 SS Rodriguez, Alex 2009 7100 9611 146 147 SS/3B Rodriguez, Ivan 2009 7740 9712 114 108 C Sheffield, Gary 2009 9394 10947 145 140 RF/LF/3B/DH/SS Thome, Jim 2009 7281 9463 149 146 1B/DH/3B Vizquel, Omar 2009 9548 11277 85 83 SS
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01/20/10 10:59 PM
rjb182 wrote: But one thing confuses me: ARE there any players from the Bill James Top 100 that were omitted? I seem to recall, when the disk first came out, one of the things they said was that they got everybody on those lists... Maybe I'm imagining things. I do that sometimes.
CATCHER Name Rank Start End PA OPS+ Positions Carroll, Fred 83 1884 1891 3290 135 C/LF/RF/CF/1B Hargrave, Bubbles 85 1913 1930 2852 118 C Hassey, Ron 89 1978 1991 3906 100 C LaValliere, Mike 91 1984 1995 2871 93 C Lopata, Stan 92 1948 1960 3034 114 C/1B Hogan, Shanty 94 1925 1937 3474 100 C Diaz, Bo 97 1977 1989 3537 87 C Phelps, Babe 98 1931 1942 2306 125 C Harper, Brian 99 1979 1995 3386 102 C/LF Smith, Earl 100 1919 1930 2569 111 C
FIRST BASE Name Rank Start End PA OPS+ Positions Doyle, Jack 87 1889 1905 6566 105 1B/C/2B/RF/SS/3B Lockman, Whitey 90 1945 1960 6590 95 1B/LF/CF Tucker, Tommy 93 1887 1899 7266 102 1B Gentile, Jim 94 1957 1966 3479 136 1B O'Brien, Pete 96 1982 1993 6168 104 1B/OF Johnson, Deron 98 1960 1976 6620 102 1B/3B/DH/LF
SECOND BASE Name Rank Start End PA OPS+ Positions Lefebvre, Jim 84 1965 1972 3417 104 2B/3B Robinson, Yank 86 1882 1892 4167 104 2B/3B/SS/LF Andrews, Mike 91 1966 1973 3685 104 2B Adams, Sparky 97 1922 1934 6174 82 2B/3B/SS Helms, Tommy 99 1964 1977 5333 79 2B/3B/SS
THIRD BASE Name Rank Start End PA OPS+ Positions White, Deacon 76 1876 1890 5668 122 3B/C/1B/RF Tabor, Jim 83 1938 1947 4136 99 3B Ward, Pete 84 1962 1970 3511 115 3B/LF/1B/RF Knight, Ray 87 1974 1988 5291 99 3B/1B Dugan, Joe 88 1917 1931 5879 82 3B/SS/2B Brooks, Hubie 89 1980 1994 6476 100 RF/3B/SS Pinkney, George 94 1884 1893 5189 103 3B/2B Shindle, Billy 95 1886 1898 6326 88 3B/SS Charles, Ed 96 1962 1969 3909 103 3B Sutton, Ezra 98 1876 1888 4453 118 3B/SS/OF Dillinger, Bob 100 1946 1951 3201 101 3B
SHORTSTOP Name Rank Start End PA OPS+ Positions Hemus, Solly 84 1949 1959 3250 115 SS/2B/3B Ramirez, Rafael 100 1980 1992 5887 77 SS/3B
LEFT FIELD Name Rank Start End PA OPS+ Positions Smith, Elmer 75 1886 1901 5400 126 LF/P/RF Vosmik, Joe 82 1930 1944 6084 104 LF/RF Francona, Tito 84 1956 1970 5776 107 LF/1B/RF/CF Walker, Gee 92 1931 1945 7211 99 LF/CF/RF Dalrymple, Abner 93 1878 1891 4384 122 LF Zernial, Gus 96 1949 1959 4561 116 LF Maxwell, Charlie 99 1950 1964 3796 116 LF/RF
CENTER FIELD Name Rank Start End PA OPS+ Positions Lange, Bill 64 1893 1899 3609 123 CF/2B Welch, Curt 83 1884 1893 4939 107 CF West, Sam 84 1927 1942 6972 104 CF/LF Stenzel, Jake 89 1890 1899 3412 134 CF Brown, Tom 90 1882 1898 8182 100 CF/RF/LF Piersall, Jim 92 1950 1967 6591 92 CF/RF/LF Kauff, Benny 94 1912 1920 3564 149 CF/RF Virdon, Bill 96 1955 1968 6522 89 CF Judnich, Wally 97 1940 1949 3207 120 CF/1B Strunk, Amos 100 1908 1924 5803 112 CF/RF/LF
RIGHT FIELD Name Rank Start End PA OPS+ Positions McCarthy, Tommy 88 1884 1896 5739 102 RF/LF Bichette, Dante 90 1988 2001 6855 106 RF/LF/CF Tobin, Jack 92 1914 1927 6872 109 RF/LF/CF Conigliaro, Tony 95 1964 1975 3591 119 RF/LF Fox, Pete 96 1933 1945 6168 98 RF/CF Lemon, Jim 97 1950 1963 3870 114 RF/LF Campbell, Bruce 98 1930 1942 5369 109 RF Shaffer, Orator 99 1877 1890 3674 122 RF
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