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01/10/10 11:07 PM
What Cheer Wombat wrote: Now, does anyone thing ANY of these guys are Hall of Famers by ANY definition??? Before I trigger an avalanche of "Are you kidding me??" posts, let me clarify up front that I don't think Eric Davis should be in the HOF. I think he had more than enough talent to be a HOFer and his career was certainly long enough in terms of seasons, but he lost too many games, and possibly too much of his skill, to injuries. He had 7 truly excellent seasons if you consider productivity and playing time, and that isn't a HOFer in my book. But how many truly excellent seasons did Lefty Gomez have? Looks like 7 to me. How many outstanding seasons did Sandy Koufax have? I'd say 6. Yes, I know that Koufax's 6 excellent seasons were in a different class than either Gomez' or Davis' 7 excellent seasons. But still, 6 seasons? As long as there has been so much discussion of Dawson's HOF credentials, it is interesting to compare Dawson's and Davis' stats per 162 games: BA .269 .279 OBA .359 .323 SLG .482 .482 OPS+ 125 119 2B 24 31 3B 3 6 HR 28 27 TB 256 295 BB 74 36 SB 35 19 CS 7 7 R 93 85 RBI 93 98 GDP 11 13 I know the columns won't line up quite right but I think it is possible to keep them straight. On a per-162-game basis, it is pretty hard to see why one of them got elected to the HOF and the other one was virtually ignored in the voting. Of course Dawson produced numbers at that rate over 2600+ games while Davis did it for only 1600+ games, and that makes an enormous difference, or at least it should. But Davis' career works out to about the equivalent of 10 full-time seasons, which is pretty much what Gomez' career works out to, given the number of innings pitched by the typical rotation starter of his day. And Koufax, who played only 12 seasons, also pitched about enough innings for roughly 10 full-time seasons. There are a few others in the Hall with only 6 or 7 truly excellent seasons as well. So while I wouldn't vote for Davis for the HOF, obviously voters on occasion have considered 6 to 8 excellent seasons sufficient to qualify someone as a HOFer, and therefore the scattering of votes he has received doesn't seem quite as ridiculous as the votes given to the others on the list. It would have been pretty indefensible to vote him in, but it doesn't surprise me that he got a few votes.
Now, does anyone thing ANY of these guys are Hall of Famers by ANY definition???
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