your assuming v10 now, I have seen no annoucement from those in power that any date is good. IMO this site has been dead consisdering 08 was released & people I thought still played this game. However it's amazing to me the lack of discussions. Anyway back to V10 Luke would have to tell me that it's a go & than I'd need to hear at least a date. The last I head February was tossed around as a date but if that was so a beta team would have be put together & I 'think' we would of heard something if both of those were happening...